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  What Era Would You Like To Have Lived In?

  by DakotaRed in

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  besides the one we are currently in, i mean.. for me, i feel a strong draw back to the late 1930s and early 1940s.

  as i get older, i find myself enjoying the big band sound even more than i ever did, as well as the movies and radio programs of the era.

  for some reason, the appeal to that era stops about mid ww2.

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  You all seem to think the past was just like the movies. You seem to overlook all the bad things of the past. Slavery. Wars, famines. Women basically were property of their husbands, most of them died giving birth. No indoor plumbing. As witnesses, we were always being told how we were living in one of the worst times in history, and that man would probably destroy himself if God didn't step in. What a load of crap. Me, I want to live in an era somewhere in the future, where we are not stuck here on one little planet. Do you realize how may medical advances are coming along very shortly? Our grandkids will live to be at least 100, and probably longer. They will colonize Mars, and move out past our solar system.

  Assuming the whole planet doesn't get wiped out by nukes or an asteriod.
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  What was your message

  by A Paduan in

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  when going door to door were you delivering good news (without an if) like, "your landlord has given you the house"or were you selling 'love' like, "if you do as we do then you will be loved"or were you pretending to be normal but giving the underlying warning about the imaginary beast-god - who was perhaps going to get yourself.. paduan

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  I was delivering the good news. Now I feel sorry for myself. What do I do now?
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  Wisconsin Bar Brand

  by No Apologies in

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  anyone here recognize that name?

  it was one of those companies made up mostly of jw's, sold snack foods back in the eighties.

  i know there were dubs from all over involved.

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  No, It was a wholesale outfit. They were based in Pine City, Mn and had distributors all over. Distributers would have a sales route of customers, bars, convenience stores, etc. Pioneers, exC.O's... They would sales meetings; felt like a circuit assembly because of all the JWs you'd run into.
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  Wisconsin Bar Brand

  by No Apologies in

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  anyone here recognize that name?

  it was one of those companies made up mostly of jw's, sold snack foods back in the eighties.

  i know there were dubs from all over involved.

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  Anyone here recognize that name? It was one of those companies made up mostly of JW's, sold snack foods back in the eighties. I know there were dubs from all over involved. Those were the days.
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  Letter read at Supplimentary Elder's School

  by messenger in

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  christian congregation

  of jehovah's witnesses

  2528 route 22

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  This letter makes me want to barf!!!! Can anyone confirm it is legit? No offense, messenger, but this is very important to some of us. How long will they continue their head-in-the-sand strategy?

  "Were Jehovahs Witnesses to immerse themselves in refuting all false charges made against them, they could also fall into a trap of the great accuser Satan the Devil

  what about the the charges that aren't false? hmm?

  Therefore we will ignore the lying misrepresentation by opposers as we are assured by Jehovah that we are walking well.

  another gem. Since they are all lies, we will ignore them. And how exactly are "we" assured of anything?

  Every time I think maybe they are acquiring a clue, they spout out more nonsense like this.
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  4th Generation Witnesses and Maybe more ?

  by out4good3 in

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  just read a thread about a guy being a forth generation witness and a question came to mind.

  how is it that jw's can rationalize the end being always "just around the corner" when there is soon to be 4th, 5th, and maybe 6th generation witnesses?

  just how is it that the previous generations can continue to follow so blindly after one failed prediction after another of never getting old in this "system of things"?.

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  You have raised some good points. Here is a religion whose main idea is that "the end is near, we are in the last days" then after a date like 1975, some leave the organization, they will say, "well, they were just serving a date" Of course they were, that was the whole point of the religion in the first place!!

  acting as if the beliefs they held yesterday never happened

  That is so true, not just the fact that the belief has changed, but somehow convincing the followers there was no change. Straight out of Orwell's 1984. "We have always believed this way. We never said college was bad. We said that 1914 would mark Jesus presence, and the beginning of the end. Vaccines, did we say vaccines were bad? Homosexuality not grounds for divorce, when was that? We have for many years encouraged victims of child abuse to report such abuse to the proper authorities."
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  What's The First Step To Leaving The "Trut...

  by minimus in

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  for those that have entirely left, what was it that first got you seriously thinking that this really wasn't the truth?

  for those that may be in just mentally, you can answer too....

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  Wednesday,

  I know almost exactly how you are feeling, in a state of flux, not knowing where to go next, waiting to be 'outed' and possibly DF'd. So just hang in there. Don't give them any rope, and there will be little they can do. My wife is very suspicious, and if she found out I am on this board, I have no doubt she would run screaming to the elders.

  Some people can keep up a charade for years, going to meetings, out in service, etc. I can't. I won't.

  I have better things to do with my life.
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  Oh No, Not Again!

  by Sentinel in

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  last night, around 8:30 (sat., 10/19), it appears the serial snipers struck again.. if you travel south on down route 95, past spotsylvania, where two shootings took place, you come to a small town called ashland, va. there is a pondersoa steak house right off the highway.

  a 37 year old man was walking out with his female companion, and he was hit by a single bullet to the abdomen.

  they closed off route 95 entirely.

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  Francois, my point should have been obvious. You were going on and on about immigrants and how terrorists are entering the U.S. and what a threat these immigrants are and how its all the Democrats fault. What you seem to overlook is the fact that guys like McVeigh and Kaczinski, two of the worst terrorists this counttry has ever seen, are born-in-the-USA citizens.

  I get real tired of listening to people who blame all the problems in the U.S. on immigration. Yes there are people here illegally, yes some of them are criminals, yes some of them abuse welfare. There might even be a few terrorists who slip in. So what? There are thousands of people in each of those categories born here. Should we kick them out? (Oops, can't do that.) But lumping all immigrants together or closing the borders off is not a solution.
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  Ewanchuk v. Ewanchuk: JW grandparents' rights case

  by expatbrit in

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  earlier this month, the supreme court of the northwest territories rendered judgement on this case, involving grandparents rights of access to their grandchildren and their right to expose the grandchildren to their religion.

  practising jehovahs witnesses.. tracy ewanchuk (respondent): the mother of asia and alecsa.

  a second is that he views their exposure to his religious practices as something that is healthy for them.

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  Scully:

  I guess when the grandparents are JWs, they are incapable of tearing families and children apart'', whereas if the parents are JWs and the grandparents are not, it becomes "very damaging and increase[s] the damage to children".

  The other feature I want to discuss is the rights of access for both parents and the right of both access parent and custodial parent to have free interchange of information and to teach the child what he believes as well as what the custodial parent believes. This is all part of family life. Lots of people disagree on many things. Children are entitled to know that and to know the access parent as well as the custodial parent as a person.

  Pretty language there, Mr. How. But what about when the grandparents want to shove what THEY believe down the grandchildren's throats against the wishes of the custodial parent??

  Can you give any example where Mr. How is trying to defend some kind of double standard based on whether the grandparents are JWs or not? I sure don't see it in the quotes you listed? I don't think taking kids to a church or a Kingdom Hall once or twice a year qualifies as 'shoving it down their throats.'

  I detect just a faint hint of bias from the posters on this thread. Try this: If the grandparents were Catholic, and the daughter-in-law was a JW, how would you feel about this case?

  and then this.

  Hawk:

  The roof project didn't work out the way we hoped. Damn.

  Love, Scully

  No problem.

  I gotta few ideas.

  hawk

  what's with the coded messages? What's a roof project, and why should I care to read about it?

  Let the flaming begin!
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  I LOST MY JOB TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  by Jesika in

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  i have been searching for a job since march, and finally got one waiting tables at a pool hall.

  they fired me today due to "pushing" someone that i asked to excuse me.

  then i was told that my "attitude" was a reason.

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  Jes, sorry to hear about your job loss. I lost my job last year, its not fun. Hang in there.

  Have you thought about getting more education? Its a great investment. I waited way too long to go back to school, but it definitely was worth it for me.